Response to John Hobbins on NT Eschatology Friday, May 9 2008 

“I think the first thing that must be admitted is that the various eschatological scenarios attested in the New Testament resist systematization into a single coherent frame.”

1)I would rather say that, like a prism, each New Testament author gives us a different perspective on the end. I also assume, on the basis of God’s nature, the analogia fidei, so I do not think there is any problem with trying to draw out to the best of our abilities a unified eschatology even though there maybe difficulties resolving all of our questions.

2a) As far as the New Testament “resisting” a single coherent frame I would beg to differ. Ben Witherington demonstrated a while back that there is essential points of agreement between Jesus and Paul on the end of the world.

2b) There are also themes in the general epistles that cohere with Jesus and Paul. The “theif” in the night motif can be found in 2 Peter, the imminence of Jesus coming is referred to as at the door in James. These are just a few examples.

2c) The “already” but “not yet” tension is apparent across the New Testament literature. Some writings in the New Testament emphasize one in certain circumstance the second in other circumstances.

“It is about time, nonetheless, that a more this-worldly eschatology was recovered. I introduce the topic in a recent post on my blog entitled “The Apostle Paul was a Zionist.”

I will have to take a look at your post, but do not exclude the other-wordly side of eschatology, which gave the apocolyptic movements their strength in “this world”. See Richard Bauckham “The Delay of the Parousia” Tyndale Bulletin.

Blake

William James: In the Maelstorm of American Modernism Saturday, Apr 5 2008 

I have a slight fascination with William James. The only reason why I can think of is that I attended Boyce College, which is the undergraduate school of Southern Seminary. The environment at Southern is unashamedly Realist/Classical Foundationalist, and all types of post-modernism, post-Kantian philosophy, and Pragmatism is railed upon as not being “in-line” with Christian Orthodoxy. So, my interest in James may be a rebellion of sorts, or it may be because I am an American, and I take particular pride in the fact that there is a truly American philosophy. Either way i have this interest in James.

I picked up a biography of James from the local library entitled “William James: In the Maelstorm of American Modernism” it is a very good biography, it lays out the influences on his thought very well, tracing everything form what he read to the people who influenced him.

I am finishing section one today, and I find it to give some very good insight into Jame’s life and thought.

Writing Fiction is Not Far From History Writing Tuesday, Mar 25 2008 

I have been reading Rabbi Jesus by Bruce Chilton, and I have come to the conclusion that writing history is not that far from fictional writing. Chilton repeatedly makes assertions about the silent years of Jesus’ life on the basis of his tenable reconstruction of Jesus’ childhood using the Targums and Rabbinic literature. From my understanding the use of rabbinic literature is fraught with difficulty when using it to write history, and every step along the way must be defended.

It is not that I do not believe that the Rabbinic or Targum writings can be used to reconstruct first-century Judaism, but for a scholar to rely on it so much as Chilton does makes me want to hear a little more supporting arguments for his specific cases (Jesus childhood, his birth in Bethlehem of Galilee instead of Bethlehem of Judea, his “conflict with John the Baptist, and Chilton’s claim that Jesus was a Mamzer all need to be supported.) The claim that Jesus was a mamzer is a case in point, Darryl Bock notes that a mamzer was either a child with a heathen father or slave. Neither of these applied to Joseph. (Bock Pg. 70 footnote)

Not Open to Logical Scrutiny: The Day of the Lord According to the Encyclopedia of Judaica Friday, Mar 14 2008 

The Day of the Lord became the Day of Christ, or the Second Advent in the early church. It would seem that the concept, though more clearly defined, would retain many of its Jewish features especially since the early church was a predominantly Jewish community.

In my study of the concept of the Yom Yahweh,  I came across this passage in the Encyclopedia of Judaica:

“DAY OF THE LORD, a definite, though undetermined, point of time in the future, when God is expected to punish the wicked and justice will triumph.(My Emphasis) The term “Day of the Lord” serves as a key word in nine prophetic passages (Isa. 13:6–13; Joel 1:15; 2:1; 3:4; 4:14; Amos 5:18–20; Obad. 15; Zeph. 1:17–18; Mal. 3:23); in others it appears in some slightly varied form (see e.g., Isa. 2:12; Ezek. 30:3; Zech. 14:1–9). The prominent feature of these passages is a dramatic sense of doom, underlined by a few characteristic motifs, such as darkness and wailing. The usual message of these prophecies asserts that the Day of the Lord is near…”"The main, though largely undiscussed, difficulty concerning the Day of the Lord is that of its significance. The passages do not convey a concept amenable to logical analysis, nor an eschatological doctrine. The warning is given that the Day of the Lord is near, but the more abstract idea involving history’s drawing to a close is not indicated. The wicked will be punished, justice established, mankind confounded, and its destiny somehow definitely changed. However, none of this seems essential to the notion itself. Nor is the concept related to expectations of theophany. The prophets simply confront their listeners with the awful certainty of future Divine action. Thus in the expression “Day of the Lord” there is a rather vague but stark and powerful concept: God will indeed act – suddenly, decisively, and directly, in a single day, with vehemence and terror.”

(Day of the Lord. Jacob Licht. Encyclopaedia Judaica. Ed. Michael Berenbaum and Fred Skolnik. Vol. 5. 2nd ed.  Detroit: Macmillan Reference USA, 2007. p494.) The biblical understanding of God ’s showdown with the world is left undefined. Of course in my series on Early Christian Eschatology I will have to show that the church adopted this perspective, but this should at least caution us in attributing  modern day apocolyptic beliefs to the early Christians.

Points that we can draw from this:

1) The day is always “near” but undefined.

2) The day will most certainly come.

3) The concept was used to inspire ethical living, for the “Day” was always impending upon the believer.

4) The concept is not easily dissected by modern western thought forms.

Blake

NT Eschatology: Delay of the Parousia Tuesday, Mar 4 2008 

    It is well-known that there is a problem (depending on the way you look at it) in the New Testament, and I would argue through out the whole bible, of Eschatological Imminence. The Deist were some of the first to point this problem out in the 17th century by making the case that it appeared that the Jesus and the New Testament authors themselves expected Jesus to return right after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. to the Romans, or sometime in near the end of the first or the beginning of the second century.The trend continued with the rise of historical-criticism and study of the “Historical Jesus”. Ed Babinski at the Secular Web has recently updated (?) an older article entitled The Low Down on God’s Show Down, in the article he argues that virtually every author of the New Testament, and Jesus himself, expected Jesus to return before the end of the first century. Thankfully for us living now it did not happen the way they wanted it to. Babinski draws the conclusion from passages throughout the New Testament that Jesus and the early church were wrong about the Lord’s return and thus, the New Testament and Christianity founder on the rocks of false prophets and failed prophecies . That is what Jesus and the authors of the New Testament were if they were wrong in there predictions.

This problem is nothing new in New Testament studies, and it has seen  a plethora of articles, books, commentaries, and debates about this problem. In Ed’s article he summarizes the problem rather well; from a plain[1] reading of the text it would appear that there is a serious problem.

I am going to do a series of posts on this issue with in the Bible. I am not going to respond to Mr. Babinski’s article directly, except by way of footnotes where I feel that he has some very good things to say. I am going to offer another interpretive theory of these texts, and not simply criticize Mr. Babinski, a position can be criticized to the “t” yet at the end of the day you may have only criticized one form of the position leaving others that are stronger. Thus, since Mr. Babinski has sketched out his view on the New Testament, and built his case, I will present one of my own. Along the way I will dialogue with Ed’s position where we disagree, or where I think he misrepresented those that would disagree with him.

[1] Plain in the sense that it is over simplistic, and that it rejects any attempt to save the NT from contradiction and failure. If the NT writers and Jesus are wrong, they are wrong, but I will argue that the “plain” reading of these texts cannot be upheld without causing other problems.

Bonhoeffer on Communal Scripture Reading Monday, Mar 3 2008 

I picked up Life Together by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, it has been sitting on my shelf for quite some time, and I have been kicking myself for not reading it. I have been told that it is a great book, and it is! In the second chapter, entitled The Day With Others Bonhoeffer devotes much space to scripture reading, he advocates a “narrative” approach way back when he wrote this, he says,

“Consecutive reading of Biblical books forces everyone who wants to hear to put himself, or to allow himself to be found, where God has acted once and for all for the salvation of men. We become a part of what once took place for our salvation. Forgetting and losing ourselves, we, too, pass through the Red Sea, through the desert, across the Jordan into the promiseland. With Israel we fall into doubt and unbelief and through punishment and repentance experience again God’s help and faithfulness. All this is not mere reverie but holy, godly reality. We are torn out of our own existence and set down in the midst of the holy history of God on earth. There God dealt with us, and there He still deals with us, our needs and our sins, in judgment and grace.” Pg. 54

By immersing ourselves in God’s story we become part of, not only our individual communities, but we become one with all of the community of God through history; from Abraham to John the Revelator.

Dr. Peter Enns Monday, Mar 3 2008 

http://peterennsonline.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/exodus-and-the-problem-of-historiography-rr-new-version-final-dec-05.pdf

In this post I am going to be referring to the above article by Dr. Peter Enns of Westminster Seminary. Dr. Enns has become somewhat of a controversial figure in Evangelical Biblical Studies (EBS), and it is because of the type of questions that he raises. He wrote a book recently on the nature of scripture that caused quite a stir, and for good reason, he simply asks some very difficult questions.

In this article Enns makes a very helpful distinction in how EBSch (Evangelical Biblical Scholars) try to establish the historical veracity of scripture. They are not trying to prove that the events, dates of the books, etc. are proven, or certainly dated, but only plausible as historical considerations. This does not force the Evangelical to abandon his/her doctrine of scripture, because all one has to show is plausibility. So the position seems to be that, as long as an evangelical can account for the data, as well as, if not better than an opposing position then it can be rationally held. This is how I would argue it, and since there is no such thing in history as “absolute proof” that is all we can expect.

After reading him note this, he goes on and raises the big question of the article. He never really pin points his question, but I would paraphrase it as: “Since the biblical author is separated from the events by time what is the relationship between the historical event (HE) and the Literary convention (LC), and how does the fitting of (HE) into (LC), which produces a Historical Telling (HT), affect the historical truthfulness of the (HT)?

An example may be helpful, Enns uses the example of the Tabernacle. He notes that in On the Reliability of the Old Testament , Kenneth Kitchen shows that the Tabernacle account in Exodus may have been edited by later priests, or scribes (This is our HT), Enns then asks the question whether or not the HE (The tabernacle as it existed in history) differs from the HT (Tabernacle described in Exodus). He notes that he does not want to read anything into what Kitchen is saying, but that it still raises a very good question. If the tabernacle description in the text (HT) differs from that of the (HE) how does that affect out view of inspiration? This question is big for Enns because he seems to assume that if a retelling of an event follows a literary convention that it must have therefore been skewed a bit. Enns may not like the word skewed, but I am having trouble finding a better word.

If his concept that Literary Genre automatically means (mild?) distortion of the retelling in the biblical text, then there is a problem for most Evangelical scholars. The problem is that Evangelicals want to say that scripture is God’s word, and since it is God’s word it is truthful in all that it says; but if scripture distorts what the tabernacle was like is God mistaken, or lacking in knowledge of how the tabernacle was built?

Of course I would simply answer that Literary Convention does not necessitate distortion, and as an evangelical who upholds the sovereignty of God, why couldn’t God orchestrate events such that the events line up with the retelling in the literary conventions? Of course this cannot be proved, but neither can Enns assumption that Literary Convention almost always equals distortion.

You will notice that I kept the discussion general, because my problem with Enns is a matter of logic, and theology not history, though that would be there also. I was simply showing that it is not logically impossible that Text and Event are necessarily at odds if you have a Sovereign God and he is the author of the text. This is what I understand a good reformed doctrine of inspiration to hold.

Scott Mcknight’s New Article in Christianity Today Sunday, Mar 2 2008 

If you get the chance you should skip on over to Christianity Today and read the article that Scott Mcknight wrote in response the question: Is our gospel to small?

In the very last paragraph Mcknight makes the excellent point that the church is not optional for the one who claims Christ, but absolutely mandatory. The believer does not get just the Lord, but the Church and the Lord. Here is Mcknight at the end of his article,

“So “joining the church” isn’t an option for Christians. How often do we preach entering into the community of faith, the church, as inherent to what the gospel work of God is all about? The little gospel gives the new believer the choice about the local church; the robust biblical gospel offers the new believer the church along with its Lord. Because ultimately, only a redeemed community is robust enough to do justice to the problems we confront—and the gospel we proclaim.”

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/march/13.36.html

Options in the Debate Between Science and Religion Saturday, Mar 1 2008 

I think that often times popular culture only gives two options in the debate over science and religion. They both assume a realist conception of science, and assume that theoretical science (in contrast to observational science) actually tells us something truthful about the world around us. The options can be broken down into the following:

1) Science Trumps Religion: Science corresponds to our world, and by testing hypothesis, which in turn become theories, which in turn; if they are strong enough, become laws. When something becomes a law it is the “Truth”.  So if Science says that humans developed off of the African Savannah a few million years ago, with no evidence of divine intervention, then so much worse for religion. Dan Dennett, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and most of the people involved in the ID debate would hold this view.

A view that holds to the view that science corresponds to the world, and may contradict religion is what has become known as NOMA. The acronym stands for Non Overlapping Magisteria, Stephen Jay Gould was the first to sketch this view out. He said that science and religion occupy two different realms. It may seem that Religion makes claims about the world around us, but we have misunderstood it, and Science and Religion basically talk past one another.

2) Creation Science/ID/OEC/Theistic Evolution/Gap Theory and Every Other View that Mangles Scripture.

This view says that Science does in fact tell us Truth about the world, therefore we need to either modify the Bible, or we need to show that Science as it is performed today is wrong, but still it is a means of getting at “Reality”, “The Big Picture” or whatever you want to call it. This is why you get all kinds of weird arguments in the Creationist literature. I have more respect for the Scientific Creationists, because while I think their interpretations of some biblical passages are wrong (behemoth in Job) they do take scripture seriously, and they do not try to dance around the word yom in Genesis 1.

The other views in this category whether they be OEC (Old Earth Creationism)/Gap Theory/Theistic Evolution try to change the meaning of scripture, or they ignore it all together, because Science has forced them to reinterpret the Bible to fit the most recent theory. They remind me of Origen or Maimonides who tried to fit the bible into the prevailing Platonic philosophy of their day.

3) The final view, the one I lean towards, is that Science is only useful but it never gets at the “Truth”. Observational science, the science that we can observe today is good for human pragmatic purposes (medicine, machinery, etc), but the theoretical science that most people are so entranced by is not based on anything solid. Things like the assumption of the principle of Induction, that the laws of physics hold in all parts of the universe, are all assumptions. This may be interesting to read about, but it almost never tells us the truth. I will post more on this in the following days.

Is Instrumentalism the Answer to the Debate Over Science and the Bible? Thursday, Feb 28 2008 

John Byl, Christian astronomer, mathematician, and philosopher, wrote an interesting article about Instrumentalism for the American Scientific Affiliation (ASA). Instrumentailsm is the beleif that most of our scientific theories are false. The position reminds me much of the approach William James took to the world in his book Pragmatism. Byl chastises many Christians in this article for not investigating, what he calls, a “third option” in their approach to science and faith. Byl’s two articles can be found here

ASA Byl in ASA

Debate with young here

Update: Young responded to Byl in Westminster’s theological Journal. I have only skimmed through it, but it appears to me that Young has missed the point of Byl’s position.

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